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1925 and Beth-Sarim

„A most élő emberek közül milliók sohasem halnak meg” volt a mozgalom legszélesebb körben terjesztett üzenete az 1920-as években. A hozzá kötött évszám 1925 volt. Szokatlanul teljes az a dokumentáció, amely arról szól, mi jelent meg ez előtt az év előtt, ennek az évnek a folyamán és utána.

Utoljára ellenőrizve: 2026. szeptember 19.

Mit jósoltak

we may expect 1925 to witness the return of these faithful men of Israel from the condition of death, being resurrected and fully restored to perfect humanity ... Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old

Millions Now Living Will Never Die, “The Jubilee / Earthly Rulers sections”, 1920, pp. 88-90 Ellenőrzött Open scan (új lapon nyílik meg)

that 1925 shall mark the resurrection of the faithful worthies of old and the beginning of reconstruction, it is reasonable to conclude that millions of people now on the earth will be still on the earth in 1925. Then ... we must reach the positive and indisputable conclusion that millions now living will never die.

Millions Now Living Will Never Die, “Concluding argument”, 1920, p. 97 Ellenőrzött Open scan (új lapon nyílik meg)
Kifejezett kijelentés · 1920 Ellenőrzött

Rutherford's Millions Now Living Will Never Die (1920) said 'we may expect 1925 to witness the return of these faithful men of Israel from the condition of death' and 'we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old', and derived the book's title from that date. Source: Millions Now Living Will Never Die, 1920Source: Millions Now Living Will Never Die, 1920

A szervezet álláspontja vagy későbbi magyarázata: Proclaimers p.78 quotes the sentence and says 'The year 1925 came and went. Some abandoned their hope.'; Yearbook 1975 p.146: 'The faithful men of old times... had not been resurrected'.

Bizonyítékok megjelenítése (2 forrás)
Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

Millions Now Living Will Never Die, “The Jubilee / Earthly Rulers sections”

1920 · pp.88-90 · J. F. Rutherford · International Bible Students Association

“we may expect 1925 to witness the return of these faithful men of Israel from the condition of death, being resurrected and fully restored to perfect humanity ... Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old”

Seventy jubilees of fifty years from 1575 B.C. are said to end 'in the fall of the year 1925, at which time the type ends and the great antitype must begin'.

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for Millions Now Living Will Never Die, The Jubilee / Earthly Rulers sections

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Both scans' OCR opened; running headers '88', '90' visible around the passage.

A szkenn eredete. Internet Archive (daveignatius) scan; also Library of Congress Harry Houdini Collection copy at https://archive.org/details/millionsnowlivin00ruth. Public domain.

Megerősítő források. src-jv-1993-00-p78-1925

Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-mnl-1920-00-p88-90-1925

Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

Millions Now Living Will Never Die, “Concluding argument”

1920 · p.97 · J. F. Rutherford · International Bible Students Association

“that 1925 shall mark the resurrection of the faithful worthies of old and the beginning of reconstruction, it is reasonable to conclude that millions of people now on the earth will be still on the earth in 1925. Then ... we must reach the positive and indisputable conclusion that millions now living will never die.”

The book's title claim is explicitly derived from the 1925 expectation.

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for Millions Now Living Will Never Die, Concluding argument

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Wording confirmed in scan OCR; page 97 is the standard citation (not read from a header). Page 97 is confirmed by the following "98" page header in the scan.

A szkenn eredete. Internet Archive (daveignatius); public domain.

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Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-mnl-1920-00-p97-millions

Az állítás oldala Helyesbítés vagy frissítés

A következő években az évszámot egyre határozottabban jelentették ki, nem pedig óvatosabban.

The physical facts show beyond question of a doubt that 1914 ended the Gentile times ... The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures because it is fixed by the law God gave to Israel.

The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “Europe a Boiling Cauldron (section)”, 1 September 1922, p. 262 Ellenőrzött Open scan (új lapon nyílik meg)

Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures, marking the end of the typical jubilees. Just exactly what will happen at that time no one can tell to a certainty; but we expect such a climax in the affairs of the world that the people will begin to realize the presence of the Lord and his kingdom power.

The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “Questions and answers (on reports that pilgrims were told to stop talking about 1925)”, 1 April 1923, p. 106 Ellenőrzött Open scan (új lapon nyílik meg)

The year 1925 is a date definitely and clearly marked in the Scriptures, even more clearly than that of 1914; but it would be presumptuous on the part of any faithful follower of the Lord to assume just what the Lord is going to do during that year.

The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “(article on loyalty; closing paragraphs)”, 15 July 1924, p. 211 Ellenőrzött Open scan (új lapon nyílik meg)
Kifejezett kijelentés · 1922. szeptember 1. Ellenőrzött

The Watch Tower of 1 September 1922 said 'The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures because it is fixed by the law God gave to Israel', and on 15 July 1924 that 1925 'is a date definitely and clearly marked in the Scriptures, even more clearly than that of 1914'. Source: The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, 1922. szeptember 1.Source: The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, 1924. július 15.

A szervezet álláspontja vagy későbbi magyarázata: Yearbook 1975 p.146 says members 'read into it that it was a certainty' rather than a 'probability'.

Bizonyítékok megjelenítése (2 forrás)
Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “Europe a Boiling Cauldron (section)”

1922. szeptember 1. · p.262 · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“The physical facts show beyond question of a doubt that 1914 ended the Gentile times ... The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures because it is fixed by the law God gave to Israel.”

Adds that 'even before 1924 the great crisis will be reached and probably passed'.

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, Europe a Boiling Cauldron (section)

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Issue header 'September 1, 1922' and page numbers 261/262 confirmed around the passage in the scan OCR.

A szkenn eredete. Internet Archive upload by Veillez.org; public domain.

Megerősítő források. src-wt-1924-0715-p211-1925

Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-wt-1922-0901-p262-1925

Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “(article on loyalty; closing paragraphs)”

1924. július 15. · p.211 · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“The year 1925 is a date definitely and clearly marked in the Scriptures, even more clearly than that of 1914; but it would be presumptuous on the part of any faithful follower of the Lord to assume just what the Lord is going to do during that year.”

Preceded by 'Let no one now be deceived by calculations as to just when the Lord will cease his work with the Church on earth.'

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, (article on loyalty; closing paragraphs)

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Wording and issue header 'July 15, 1924' confirmed; page 211 is the standard citation (not read from a header).

A szkenn eredete. Internet Archive upload by Veillez.org of the 1924 volume; public domain.

Megerősítő források. src-wt-1922-0901-p262-1925

Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-wt-1924-0715-p211-1925

Az állítás oldala Helyesbítés vagy frissítés
Kifejezett kijelentés · 1923. április 1. Ellenőrzött

In April 1923 the Society denied that travelling speakers had been told to stop talking about 1925 and stated: 'Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures, marking the end of the typical jubilees.' Source: The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, 1923. április 1.

Bizonyítékok megjelenítése (1 forrás)
Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “Questions and answers (on reports that pilgrims were told to stop talking about 1925)”

1923. április 1. · p.106 · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures, marking the end of the typical jubilees. Just exactly what will happen at that time no one can tell to a certainty; but we expect such a climax in the affairs of the world that the people will begin to realize the presence of the Lord and his kingdom power.”

Denies that pilgrims were told to cease talking about 1925.

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, Questions and answers (on reports that pilgrims were told to stop talking about 1925)

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Issue header 'APRIL 1, 1923' and page markers 105/106 precede the passage in the scan OCR.

A szkenn eredete. Internet Archive upload by Veillez.org of the 1923 volume; public domain.

Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-wt-1923-0401-p106-1925

Az állítás oldala Helyesbítés vagy frissítés

Mire buzdították a tagokat, hogy számítsanak

The resurrection of the patriarchs, the heavenly change of the anointed and the end of the work. The 1975 Yearbook records that ‘the faithful men of old times—Abraham, David and others—had not been resurrected to become princes in the earth’, and that some ‘prepared for their own loved ones with expectancy of their resurrection’. A 1991 life story: ‘In 1924 the grown-ups talked a lot about 1925 … “If the Lord takes us away, what will become of our children?”’ Source: 1975 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, 1975 Source: The Watchtower, 1991. november 1.

Előtte és utána, egyetlen éven belül

1 January 1925

‘This may be accomplished. It may not be.’

The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during the year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. ... Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire during this year

The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “Work for the Anointed”, 1 January 1925, p. 3 Ellenőrzött Open scan (új lapon nyílik meg)

Miután az év elkezdődött, az a folyóirat, amely 1925-öt „véglegesen eldöntöttnek” nevezte, most arra intette az olvasókat, hogy ne „foglalkozzanak olyan mélyen azzal, ami ebben az évben bekövetkezhet”.

1 September 1925

A ‘selfish’ expectation Satan would ‘inject’

The end of 1925 is about here. Some have expected to see the work of the church in the flesh completed this year. ... It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated the thought that 1925 should see an end of the work

The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “(study article on diligence to the end)”, 1 September 1925, pp. 259-262, pars. 10, 25-26 Ellenőrzött Open scan (új lapon nyílik meg)

Szeptemberre azt a várakozást, hogy a munka 1925-ben véget ér, már úgy írták le, mint amely „bizonyos mértékű önzést” tükrözhet, és mint olyan gondolatot, amelyet „Sátán igyekszik majd beplántálni az odaszenteltek elméjébe”.

Későbbi újraértelmezés · 1925. január 1. Ellenőrzött

On 1 January 1925 The Watch Tower acknowledged that 'many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during the year', adding 'This may be accomplished. It may not be', and that Christians 'should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire during this year'. Source: The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, 1925. január 1.

Bizonyítékok megjelenítése (1 forrás)
Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “Work for the Anointed”

1925. január 1. · p.3 · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during the year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. ... Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire during this year”

Opening pages of the first 1925 issue.

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, Work for the Anointed

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Issue header 'JANUARY 1, 1925' confirmed immediately before the passage; page 3 is the standard citation.

A szkenn eredete. Internet Archive upload by Veillez.org of the 1925 volume; public domain.

Megerősítő források. src-wt-1925-0901-p259-262

Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-wt-1925-0101-p3-1925-is-here

Az állítás oldala Helyesbítés vagy frissítés
Későbbi újraértelmezés · 1925. szeptember 1. Ellenőrzött

By September 1925 The Watch Tower described the expectation that the church's work would be completed that year as possibly reflecting 'a measure of selfishness', and warned that 'Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated the thought that 1925 should see an end of the work'. Source: The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, 1925. szeptember 1.

Bizonyítékok megjelenítése (1 forrás)
Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “(study article on diligence to the end)”

1925. szeptember 1. · pp.259-262 · pars. 10, 25-26 · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“The end of 1925 is about here. Some have expected to see the work of the church in the flesh completed this year. ... It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated the thought that 1925 should see an end of the work”

Reframes the 1925 expectation as partly 'selfish' and as a satanic temptation to negligence.

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, (study article on diligence to the end)

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Page markers 259, 261, 262 and 'SEPTEMBER 1, 1925' headers confirmed in the OCR.

A szkenn eredete. Internet Archive single-issue scan (uploader Paul.bond.faith); public domain.

Megerősítő források. src-wt-1926-0815-p246-forgotten

Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-wt-1925-0901-p259-262

Az állítás oldala Helyesbítés vagy frissítés

Mi történt

Again in 1925 many said: 'The ancient worthies have not returned; and some who seem to be saints are still on the earth: surely the Lord hath forgotten us.'

The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “(study article on Isaiah 49)”, 15 August 1926, p. 246 Ellenőrzött Open scan (új lapon nyílik meg)

The 1975 Yearbook quotes a member’s recollection: ‘1925 was a sad year for many brothers. Some of them were stumbled; their hopes were dashed.’ The 1980 Yearbook records that in France outsiders ‘made fun of the brothers’ after the year passed. Source: 1975 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, 1975 Source: 1980 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, 1980

Kimenetel · 1925 Ellenőrzött

Nothing predicted for 1925 occurred. Official publications later record that 'many said: The ancient worthies have not returned' (1926), that '1925 was a sad year for many brothers... their hopes were dashed' (Yearbook 1975), that 'meeting attendance dropped dramatically in some congregations in France and Switzerland' (Proclaimers), and that outsiders 'made fun of the brothers' (Yearbook 1980). Source: The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, 1926. augusztus 15.Source: 1975 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, 1975Source: Jehovah's Witnesses—Proclaimers of God's Kingdom (jv), 1993Source: 1980 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, 1980Source: The Watchtower, 1991. november 1.

A szervezet álláspontja vagy későbbi magyarázata: Proclaimers p.633: 'They certainly did not err in believing that God would without fail do what he had promised. But some of their time calculations and the expectations that they associated with these gave rise to serious disappointments.'

Bizonyítékok megjelenítése (5 forrás)
Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “(study article on Isaiah 49)”

1926. augusztus 15. · p.246 · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“Again in 1925 many said: 'The ancient worthies have not returned; and some who seem to be saints are still on the earth: surely the Lord hath forgotten us.'”

Compares the 1925 disappointment with the discouragement of 1918.

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, (study article on Isaiah 49)

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Page markers 246/247 bracket the passage in the OCR.

A szkenn eredete. Internet Archive single-issue scan (uploader Paul.bond.faith); public domain.

Notes. The separate 1926 statement 'Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not so state' (cited as w1926 p.232) was NOT located in any scan opened; unverified.

Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-wt-1926-0815-p246-forgotten

Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

1975 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, “Part 2—United States of America”

1975 · p.146 · Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York

“The year 1925 came and went. Jesus' anointed followers were still on earth as a class. The faithful men of old times—Abraham, David and others—had not been resurrected to become princes in the earth. ... 'Instead of its being considered a "probability," they read into it that it was a "certainty," and some prepared for their own loved ones with expectancy of their resurrection.'”

Quotes Anna MacDonald: '1925 was a sad year for many brothers. Some of them were stumbled; their hopes were dashed.'

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for 1975 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, Part 2—United States of America

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Opened on wol; page marker 146.

Megerősítő források. src-jv-1993-00-p78-1925

Notes. The task's phrase 'the brothers were disappointed' does not occur verbatim; the actual wording is as quoted.

Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-yb-1975-00-p146-1925

Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

Jehovah's Witnesses—Proclaimers of God's Kingdom (jv), “Chapter 28, Testing and Sifting From Within — 'Were Their Expectations Correct?'”

1993 · pp.631-633 · Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York

“This later led to the idea—sometimes stated as a possibility, sometimes more firmly—that since the seventh millennium of human history would begin in 1975, events associated with the beginning of Christ's Millennial Reign might start to take place then. ... some of their time calculations and the expectations that they associated with these gave rise to serious disappointments. Following 1925, meeting attendance dropped dramatically in some congregations in France and Switzerland. Again, in 1975, there was disappointment”

Adds that after 1975 'some withdrew from the organization. Others ... were disfellowshipped', and that 'the number who defected was relatively small'.

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for Jehovah's Witnesses—Proclaimers of God's Kingdom (jv), Chapter 28, Testing and Sifting From Within — 'Were Their Expectations Correct?'

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Opened on wol; page marker 633 precedes the quoted sentences.

Megerősítő források. src-w-1980-0315-p17-18

Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-jv-1993-00-p632-633-expectations

Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

1980 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, “France”

1980 · p.62 · Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York

“The book Millions Now Living Will Never Die had been widely used in the French field since 1921, and on the basis of its contents, much was expected of 1925. But when 1925 came and went without the anticipated happenings coming to pass, those on the outside who had read the book made fun of the brothers.”

Country history; adds that 1925 'sparked off even greater difficulties within the organization'.

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for 1980 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, France

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Opened on wol; page marker 62.

Megerősítő források. src-jv-1993-00-p632-633-expectations

Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-yb-1980-00-p62-france-1925

Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

The Watchtower, “'Jehovah Is My God, in Whom I Will Trust' (life story)”

1991. november 1. · p.26 · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“In 1924 the grown-ups talked a lot about 1925. ... 'If the Lord takes us away, what will become of our children?' ... The year 1925 came and went, and nothing happened.”

Member recollection published officially.

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for The Watchtower, 'Jehovah Is My God, in Whom I Will Trust' (life story)

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Opened on wol; page marker 26.

Megerősítő források. src-yb-1975-00-p146-1925

Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-w-1991-1101-p26-1925

Az állítás oldala Helyesbítés vagy frissítés

Beth-Sarim: ház a visszatérő fejedelmeknek

The expectation did not end in 1925. On 24 December 1929 a deed, printed in The Golden Age the following March, conveyed a house in San Diego to the Society to hold ‘perpetually in trust’ for David, Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, Joseph, Samuel and other faithful men of Hebrews 11, ‘as representatives of God’s kingdom on earth’. Salvation (1939) repeated the purpose. Source: The Golden Age, 1930. március 19. Source: Salvation (book), 1939

the said WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY shall hold said title perpetually in trust for the use of any or all of the men above named as representatives of God's kingdom on earth ... Any persons appearing to take possession of said premises shall first prove and identify themselves ... as the person or persons described in Hebrews chapter eleven

The Golden Age, “(defence of Rutherford and publication of the Beth-Sarim deed) by R. J. Martin”, 19 March 1930, pp. 405-407 Ellenőrzött Open scan (új lapon nyílik meg)

The title to Beth-Sarim is vested in the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society in trust, to be used by the president of the Society and his assistants for the present, and thereafter to be for ever at the disposal of the aforementioned princes on the earth.

Salvation (book), “Chapter: God's Government, section 'Beth-Sarim'”, 1939, pp. 311-312 Ellenőrzött Open scan (új lapon nyílik meg)
Kifejezett kijelentés · 1929. december 24. Ellenőrzött

A deed dated 24 December 1929, published in The Golden Age of 19 March 1930, conveyed the San Diego house Beth-Sarim to J. F. Rutherford for life and then to the Watch Tower Society 'perpetually in trust' for David, Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, Joseph, Samuel and 'other faithful men' of Hebrews 11, who were expected to return and take charge of earth's affairs; claimants were to 'prove and identify themselves' to the Society. Source: The Golden Age, 1930. március 19.

A szervezet álláspontja vagy későbbi magyarázata: Proclaimers p.89: the house 'was built with funds that were a direct contribution for that purpose' and was sold a few years after Rutherford's death because it 'had fully served its purpose'.

Bizonyítékok megjelenítése (1 forrás)
Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

The Golden Age, “(defence of Rutherford and publication of the Beth-Sarim deed) by R. J. Martin”

1930. március 19. · pp.405-407 · R. J. Martin · Golden Age Publishing Co. / Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“the said WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY shall hold said title perpetually in trust for the use of any or all of the men above named as representatives of God's kingdom on earth ... Any persons appearing to take possession of said premises shall first prove and identify themselves ... as the person or persons described in Hebrews chapter eleven”

Deed dated 24 December 1929 names David, Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, Joseph and Samuel as expected occupants; Martin adds that 'when David and Joseph or some of the other ancient worthies return they will have it'.

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for The Golden Age, (defence of Rutherford and publication of the Beth-Sarim deed) by R. J. Martin

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Page numbers 406 and 407 and 'March 19, 1930' header visible in the OCR; deed text read in full.

A szkenn eredete. Internet Archive (daveignatius) scan of the issue. Copyright status: 1930 US periodical, likely public domain if not renewed; quote kept short.

Megerősítő források. src-sal-1939-00-p311-beth-sarim, src-jv-1993-00-p89-beth-sarim

Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-ga-1930-0319-p405-407-beth-sarim

Az állítás oldala Helyesbítés vagy frissítés
Kifejezett kijelentés · 1939 Ellenőrzött

Salvation (1939) stated that Beth-Sarim's title was held 'in trust... thereafter to be for ever at the disposal of the aforementioned princes on the earth', and that the house was built as 'tangible proof' of belief that the faithful men of old 'will soon be resurrected'. Source: Salvation (book), 1939

A szervezet álláspontja vagy későbbi magyarázata: The Watchtower 15 Dec 1947 (as quoted in Proclaimers p.89): faith in the princes' return 'is based, not upon that house Beth-Sarim, but upon God's Word of promise'.

Bizonyítékok megjelenítése (1 forrás)
Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

Salvation (book), “Chapter: God's Government, section 'Beth-Sarim'”

1939 · pp.311-312 · J. F. Rutherford · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“The title to Beth-Sarim is vested in the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society in trust, to be used by the president of the Society and his assistants for the present, and thereafter to be for ever at the disposal of the aforementioned princes on the earth.”

Also says the house was built 'as a testimony to the name of Jehovah' and that 'if and when the princes do return and some of them occupy the property, such will be a confirmation of the faith'.

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for Salvation (book), Chapter: God's Government, section 'Beth-Sarim'

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Page markers 311/312 bracket the passage in the OCR.

A szkenn eredete. Internet Archive (daveignatius) scan; a library lending copy also exists (salvation0000jfru). Copyright: 1939 US book; short quotation only.

Megerősítő források. src-ga-1930-0319-p405-407-beth-sarim

Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-sal-1939-00-p311-beth-sarim

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The house was sold after 1947. The organisation’s history quotes The Watchtower of 15 December 1947: it ‘had fully served its purpose and was now only serving as a monument quite expensive to keep; our faith in the return of the men of old time … is based, not upon that house Beth-Sarim, but upon God’s Word of promise.’ Source: Jehovah's Witnesses—Proclaimers of God's Kingdom (jv), 1993

Hogyan írta le a szervezet később 1925-öt

The 1993 history: ‘The year 1925 came and went. Some abandoned their hope.’ The 1975 Yearbook: ‘Instead of its being considered a “probability,” they read into it that it was a “certainty.”’ In 1984 a Governing Body member, Karl Klein, recorded in a published life story that Rutherford, ‘regarding his misguided statements as to what we could expect in 1925 … once confessed to us at Bethel, “I made an ass of myself.”’ That is a reported oral remark, published by the organisation; it is not a Rutherford publication. Source: Jehovah's Witnesses—Proclaimers of God's Kingdom (jv), 1993 Source: The Watchtower, 1984. október 1.

A szervezet magyarázata · 1984. október 1. Ellenőrzött

A 1984 Watchtower life story by Governing Body member Karl Klein reports that Rutherford, 'regarding his misguided statements as to what we could expect in 1925', once said at Bethel, 'I made an ass of myself.' Source: The Watchtower, 1984. október 1.

A szervezet álláspontja vagy későbbi magyarázata: This is itself an official publication's account.

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The Watchtower, “'Jehovah Has Dealt Rewardingly With Me' (life story of Karl F. Klein)”

1984. október 1. · pp.24 (footnote b; the online library prints footnotes after the last page marker) · footnote b · Karl F. Klein · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“Regarding his misguided statements as to what we could expect in 1925, he once confessed to us at Bethel, 'I made an ass of myself.'”

Footnote to Klein's recollection of J. F. Rutherford; a Governing Body member's published account.

Megjegyzés az eredetről és az ellenőrzésről for The Watchtower, 'Jehovah Has Dealt Rewardingly With Me' (life story of Karl F. Klein)

Megbízhatósági megjegyzés. Opened on wol; the footnote text sits under page marker 28. The common citation 'p. 24' is where the footnote reference is usually placed in the print edition; page not independently confirmed as 24.

Notes. It is a recollection of an oral remark, reported in an official publication; present it as such.

Megnyitva. 2026. szeptember 19. · Forrásazonosító. src-w-1984-1001-p24-28-ass-of-myself

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Megbízhatóság. Az összes 1920 és 1930 közötti idézetet közkincsnek számító szkennekben olvastuk el; az 1939-es könyvet könyvtári szkennben; az 1947-es (az 1993-as idézés szerinti), az 1975-ös, az 1984-es és az 1993-as tételt az Őrtorony Online Könyvtárban. Egy 1926-os mondatot („az Úr nem ezt mondta”) és egy 1959-es könyvoldalt, amelyet a bírálók gyakran idéznek, nem sikerült megnyitnunk, ezért nem használjuk fel. Besorolás: kifejezett jóslat.

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Millions Now Living Will Never Die, “The Jubilee / Earthly Rulers sections”

1920 · pp.88-90 · J. F. Rutherford · International Bible Students Association

“we may expect 1925 to witness the return of these faithful men of Israel from the condition of death, being resurrected and fully restored to perfect humanity ... Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old”

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Millions Now Living Will Never Die, “Concluding argument”

1920 · p.97 · J. F. Rutherford · International Bible Students Association

“that 1925 shall mark the resurrection of the faithful worthies of old and the beginning of reconstruction, it is reasonable to conclude that millions of people now on the earth will be still on the earth in 1925. Then ... we must reach the positive and indisputable conclusion that millions now living will never die.”

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The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “Questions and answers (on reports that pilgrims were told to stop talking about 1925)”

1923. április 1. · p.106 · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures, marking the end of the typical jubilees. Just exactly what will happen at that time no one can tell to a certainty; but we expect such a climax in the affairs of the world that the people will begin to realize the presence of the Lord and his kingdom power.”

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The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “(article on loyalty; closing paragraphs)”

1924. július 15. · p.211 · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“The year 1925 is a date definitely and clearly marked in the Scriptures, even more clearly than that of 1914; but it would be presumptuous on the part of any faithful follower of the Lord to assume just what the Lord is going to do during that year.”

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The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “Work for the Anointed”

1925. január 1. · p.3 · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during the year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. ... Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire during this year”

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The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, “(study article on diligence to the end)”

1925. szeptember 1. · pp.259-262 · pars. 10, 25-26 · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“The end of 1925 is about here. Some have expected to see the work of the church in the flesh completed this year. ... It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated the thought that 1925 should see an end of the work”

Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

The Golden Age, “(defence of Rutherford and publication of the Beth-Sarim deed) by R. J. Martin”

1930. március 19. · pp.405-407 · R. J. Martin · Golden Age Publishing Co. / Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“the said WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY shall hold said title perpetually in trust for the use of any or all of the men above named as representatives of God's kingdom on earth ... Any persons appearing to take possession of said premises shall first prove and identify themselves ... as the person or persons described in Hebrews chapter eleven”

Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

Salvation (book), “Chapter: God's Government, section 'Beth-Sarim'”

1939 · pp.311-312 · J. F. Rutherford · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“The title to Beth-Sarim is vested in the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society in trust, to be used by the president of the Society and his assistants for the present, and thereafter to be for ever at the disposal of the aforementioned princes on the earth.”

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1975 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, “Part 2—United States of America”

1975 · p.146 · Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York

“The year 1925 came and went. Jesus' anointed followers were still on earth as a class. The faithful men of old times—Abraham, David and others—had not been resurrected to become princes in the earth. ... 'Instead of its being considered a "probability," they read into it that it was a "certainty," and some prepared for their own loved ones with expectancy of their resurrection.'”

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1980 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, “France”

1980 · p.62 · Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York

“The book Millions Now Living Will Never Die had been widely used in the French field since 1921, and on the basis of its contents, much was expected of 1925. But when 1925 came and went without the anticipated happenings coming to pass, those on the outside who had read the book made fun of the brothers.”

Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

The Watchtower, “'Jehovah Has Dealt Rewardingly With Me' (life story of Karl F. Klein)”

1984. október 1. · pp.24 (footnote b; the online library prints footnotes after the last page marker) · footnote b · Karl F. Klein · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

“Regarding his misguided statements as to what we could expect in 1925, he once confessed to us at Bethel, 'I made an ass of myself.'”

Elsődleges Jehova tanúi kiadvány Ellenőrzött

Jehovah's Witnesses—Proclaimers of God's Kingdom (jv), “Chapter 7, Advertise the King and the Kingdom! (1919-1941)”

1993 · p.78 · Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York

“'We may confidently expect,' stated the booklet Millions Now Living Will Never Die, back in 1920, 'that 1925 will mark the return [from the dead] of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old' ... The year 1925 came and went. Some abandoned their hope.”

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Jehovah's Witnesses—Proclaimers of God's Kingdom (jv), “Chapter 7, footnotes on Beth-Sarim”

1993 · p.89 · footnotes · Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York

“A few years after Brother Rutherford's death, the board of directors of the Watch Tower Society decided to sell Beth-Sarim. Why? 'The Watchtower' of December 15, 1947, explained: 'It had fully served its purpose and was now only serving as a monument quite expensive to keep'”

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