ClaimShunning and familyverified1980sLater reinterpretation

Ostracisme et famille · Claim record

En juillet 1985, La Tour de Garde a déclaré que 2 Jean 10 avait 'une application plus large' qu'aux seuls faux enseignants, de sorte que les chrétiens 'ne devraient même pas saluer' par 'un simple "bonjour"' un pécheur expulsé ou une personne ayant rejeté la congrégation ; en août 2024, l'organisation a déclaré que 2 Jean 9-11 'concerne les apostats et d'autres personnes qui encouragent activement une mauvaise conduite' et que Paul 'n'a pas dit qu'il ne fallait jamais leur adresser une simple salutation'.

Claim ID claim-shunning-1985-2-john-10-wider-applicationConcerns 15 juillet 1985Réinterprétation ultérieure

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Réinterprétation ultérieure · 15 juillet 1985 Vérifié

En juillet 1985, La Tour de Garde a déclaré que 2 Jean 10 avait 'une application plus large' qu'aux seuls faux enseignants, de sorte que les chrétiens 'ne devraient même pas saluer' par 'un simple "bonjour"' un pécheur expulsé ou une personne ayant rejeté la congrégation ; en août 2024, l'organisation a déclaré que 2 Jean 9-11 'concerne les apostats et d'autres personnes qui encouragent activement une mauvaise conduite' et que Paul 'n'a pas dit qu'il ne fallait jamais leur adresser une simple salutation'. Source: The Watchtower, 15 juillet 1985Source: The Watchtower, 15 avril 1988Source: The Watchtower (Study Edition), août 2024

Position de l’organisation ou explication ultérieure : L'encadré de 2024 'Were John and Paul Discussing the Same Kind of Sin?' présente la lecture restrictive comme la bonne exégèse sans mentionner la position de 1985.

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Publication primaire des Témoins de Jéhovah Vérifié

The Watchtower, “Questions From Readers (Did 2 John 10 refer only to those who promoted false doctrine?)”

15 juillet 1985 · pp.30-31 · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania

“But the Bible elsewhere shows that this had a wider application. ... John was saying that they ought not even greet such an individual with khaiʹro, a common “good-day.””

Extends 2 John 10-11 beyond false teachers to 'an expelled wrongdoer or ... one who rejected His congregation'; explains khairo vs aspazomai. Reversed in substance by the August 2024 study article box, which restricts 2 John 9-11 to apostates and promoters of wrongdoing.

Note de provenance et de vérification for The Watchtower, Questions From Readers (Did 2 John 10 refer only to those who promoted false doctrine?)

Note sur la fiabilité. Raw WOL HTML fetched; wording and page markers 30-31 confirmed.

Corroboré par. src-w-1988-0415-discipline-peaceable-fruit

Date de consultation. 19 septembre 2026 · Identifiant de la source. src-w-1985-0715-qfr-2-john-10

Publication primaire des Témoins de Jéhovah Vérifié

The Watchtower, “Discipline That Can Yield Peaceable Fruit”

15 avril 1988 · pp.26-31 · par. 3, 13-14, 17, 20, 23; footnote a · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania

“The situation is different if the disfellowshipped or disassociated one is a relative living outside the immediate family circle and home. It might be possible to have almost no contact at all with the relative. Even if there were some family matters requiring contact, this certainly would be kept to a minimum”

Household relatives: 'normal family affections and dealings can continue' (par. 13). Reports the outcome of Paul v. Watchtower and concludes a shunned person 'cannot recover damages ... the person is feeling a loss brought on by his or her own actions' (par. 20). Footnote a: 2 John 11 'could well mean not to say even "hello" to such ones'.

Note de provenance et de vérification for The Watchtower, Discipline That Can Yield Peaceable Fruit

Note sur la fiabilité. Raw WOL HTML fetched; wording and page markers 26-31 confirmed.

Corroboré par. src-court-us-1987-0610-paul-v-watchtower

Date de consultation. 19 septembre 2026 · Identifiant de la source. src-w-1988-0415-discipline-peaceable-fruit

Publication primaire des Témoins de Jéhovah Vérifié

The Watchtower (Study Edition), “Study Article 35: Help for Those Who Are Removed From the Congregation”

août 2024 · pp.26-31 · par. 3-6, 10-15; footnote b; box · Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania

“In the past, we would not greet such a person. Here again, each Christian needs to use his Bible-trained conscience in this matter. Some may feel comfortable with greeting or welcoming the person to the meeting. However, we would not have an extended conversation or socialize with the individual.”

Footnote b retires 'disfellowshipped' for 'removed from the congregation'; par. 4 keeps the announcement 'no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses'; par. 13 keeps 'stop keeping company ... not even eating'; par. 15 and the box restrict 2 John 9-11 to 'apostates and others who actively promote wrong conduct'; par. 6, 10-12 on follow-up visits and reinstatement. No revised guidance on relatives outside the household.

Note de provenance et de vérification for The Watchtower (Study Edition), Study Article 35: Help for Those Who Are Removed From the Congregation

Note sur la fiabilité. Raw WOL HTML fetched; wording and page markers 26-31 confirmed; jw.org copy also opened (study week 19-25 August 2024).

Notes. jw.org copy: https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-august-2024/Help-for-Those-Who-Are-Removed-From-the-Congregation/

Date de consultation. 19 septembre 2026 · Identifiant de la source. src-w-2024-0800-study-35-help-for-those-removed

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